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		<title>By: Sebastian Trappe</title>
		<link>http://we-hate-you.com/2009/10/11/spreadshirt-premium-and-what-i-think-is-wrong-with-it/comment-page-1/#comment-479</link>
		<dc:creator>Sebastian Trappe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 20:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wie du wieder deine eigene meinung haben musst XD. Nee also um das mal ganz klar zu positionieren - f&#252;r den k&#228;ufer ist es  nat&#252;rlich praktischer dass er nur einmal versand zahlen muss und die bestellung nur einmal abschlie&#223;en muss - aber nehmen wir mal an du willst dir ein super cooles t-shirt (wHATEver :D) kaufen und suchst noch nach nem geburtstagsgeschenk f&#252;r deinen grillbegeisterten vater und landest nebenbei auf ner seite f&#252;r grillshirts. So wird nicht nur eine Verbindung zwischen dir und Spreadshirt hergestellt sondern z.b. auch zwischen nem Shop wos Shirts mit Grillspr&#252;chen drauf in der Comic Sans Font gibt. Wenn du nun nich so genau weisst was Spreadshirt ist.. dann verlieren die shops da beide an &quot;credibilty&quot; da die Spezialisierung auf die Zielgruppe verloren geht, wenn es so aussieht als w&#228;re das alles ein gro&#223;es unternehmen das einfach tausende auf verschiedene Zielgruppen ausgerichtete Seiten hat. 
 
Das mit der Registrierung ist nat&#252;rlich nachvollziehbar, aber meiner meinung nach ist es nicht in Ordnung in die infos zu schreiben &quot;wir verwenden deine daten nur dann f&#252;r promotion wenn du uns explizit deine genehmigung gibst&quot; und ihm dann nicht die m&#246;glichkeit zu geben diese genehmigung nicht zu geben wenn er ein shirt bestellen will, weil die registrierung f&#252;r den newsletter mit der zustimmung zu den agbs in einem h&#228;kchen gesetzt wird. Dazu kann er eben nicht einfach seine bestellung abschlie&#223;en und dann auf profil klicken und das ding abbestellen sondern er muss erstmal auf die spreadshirt seite gehen, weil er nur von dort aus seinen account verwalten kann. ich sag ja nicht dass die features nutzlos sind, manche wollen den newsletter vielleicht auch wirklich, aber ich will meine kunden eben nicht verarschen und wenn man das so macht find ich dass es verarsche ist. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wie du wieder deine eigene meinung haben musst XD. Nee also um das mal ganz klar zu positionieren &#8211; f&uuml;r den k&auml;ufer ist es  nat&uuml;rlich praktischer dass er nur einmal versand zahlen muss und die bestellung nur einmal abschlie&szlig;en muss &#8211; aber nehmen wir mal an du willst dir ein super cooles t-shirt (wHATEver :D) kaufen und suchst noch nach nem geburtstagsgeschenk f&uuml;r deinen grillbegeisterten vater und landest nebenbei auf ner seite f&uuml;r grillshirts. So wird nicht nur eine Verbindung zwischen dir und Spreadshirt hergestellt sondern z.b. auch zwischen nem Shop wos Shirts mit Grillspr&uuml;chen drauf in der Comic Sans Font gibt. Wenn du nun nich so genau weisst was Spreadshirt ist.. dann verlieren die shops da beide an &quot;credibilty&quot; da die Spezialisierung auf die Zielgruppe verloren geht, wenn es so aussieht als w&auml;re das alles ein gro&szlig;es unternehmen das einfach tausende auf verschiedene Zielgruppen ausgerichtete Seiten hat. </p>
<p>Das mit der Registrierung ist nat&uuml;rlich nachvollziehbar, aber meiner meinung nach ist es nicht in Ordnung in die infos zu schreiben &quot;wir verwenden deine daten nur dann f&uuml;r promotion wenn du uns explizit deine genehmigung gibst&quot; und ihm dann nicht die m&ouml;glichkeit zu geben diese genehmigung nicht zu geben wenn er ein shirt bestellen will, weil die registrierung f&uuml;r den newsletter mit der zustimmung zu den agbs in einem h&auml;kchen gesetzt wird. Dazu kann er eben nicht einfach seine bestellung abschlie&szlig;en und dann auf profil klicken und das ding abbestellen sondern er muss erstmal auf die spreadshirt seite gehen, weil er nur von dort aus seinen account verwalten kann. ich sag ja nicht dass die features nutzlos sind, manche wollen den newsletter vielleicht auch wirklich, aber ich will meine kunden eben nicht verarschen und wenn man das so macht find ich dass es verarsche ist.</p>
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		<title>By: Sebastian Trappe</title>
		<link>http://we-hate-you.com/2009/10/11/spreadshirt-premium-and-what-i-think-is-wrong-with-it/comment-page-1/#comment-478</link>
		<dc:creator>Sebastian Trappe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 19:52:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>danke f&#252;r deine unterst&#252;tzung ;) 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>danke f&uuml;r deine unterst&uuml;tzung ;)</p>
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		<title>By: miau</title>
		<link>http://we-hate-you.com/2009/10/11/spreadshirt-premium-and-what-i-think-is-wrong-with-it/comment-page-1/#comment-476</link>
		<dc:creator>miau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 19:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hallo  
  
ich bin gerade auch am überlegen eigene t shirts zu gestalten und diese über einen internet shop zu verkaufen, von daher fände ich es auch cooler wenn ich meinen shop individueller und unabhängiger gestalten könnte. zwar hat spreadshirt ein gutes image, aber wenn ich mich unabhängig präsentieren kann so wie ich das möchte, kommt das meinen kunden  professioneller vor. ich fänds sehr toll wenn es da eine möglichkeit geben würde das so umzugestalten : )  
viele grüße  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hallo  </p>
<p>ich bin gerade auch am überlegen eigene t shirts zu gestalten und diese über einen internet shop zu verkaufen, von daher fände ich es auch cooler wenn ich meinen shop individueller und unabhängiger gestalten könnte. zwar hat spreadshirt ein gutes image, aber wenn ich mich unabhängig präsentieren kann so wie ich das möchte, kommt das meinen kunden  professioneller vor. ich fänds sehr toll wenn es da eine möglichkeit geben würde das so umzugestalten : )<br />
viele grüße</p>
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		<title>By: miau</title>
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		<dc:creator>miau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 18:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hallo 
 
ich bin gerade auch am &#252;berlegen eigene t shirts zu gestalten und diese &#252;ber einen internet shop zu verkaufen, von dah&#228;r f&#228;nde ich es auch coller wenn ich meinen shop individueller und unabh&#228;ngiger gestalten k&#246;nnte. zwar hat spreadshirt ein gutes image, aber wenn ich mich unabh&#228;ngig pr&#228;sentieren kann so wie ich das m&#246;chte, kommt das meinen kunden  professioneller vor. ich f&#228;nds sehr toll wenn es da eine m&#246;glichkeit geben w&#252;rde das so umzugestalten : ) 
viele gr&#252;&#223;e </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hallo </p>
<p>ich bin gerade auch am &uuml;berlegen eigene t shirts zu gestalten und diese &uuml;ber einen internet shop zu verkaufen, von dah&auml;r f&auml;nde ich es auch coller wenn ich meinen shop individueller und unabh&auml;ngiger gestalten k&ouml;nnte. zwar hat spreadshirt ein gutes image, aber wenn ich mich unabh&auml;ngig pr&auml;sentieren kann so wie ich das m&ouml;chte, kommt das meinen kunden  professioneller vor. ich f&auml;nds sehr toll wenn es da eine m&ouml;glichkeit geben w&uuml;rde das so umzugestalten : )<br />
viele gr&uuml;&szlig;e</p>
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		<title>By: Anette</title>
		<link>http://we-hate-you.com/2009/10/11/spreadshirt-premium-and-what-i-think-is-wrong-with-it/comment-page-1/#comment-474</link>
		<dc:creator>Anette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 18:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thx, this is interesting. sebastian missed the SPREAD in spreadshirt in his post, but there are more people who dont like this. i believe an independent premium account, deleting all spreadshirt references for like 10$ more would make some people happy </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thx, this is interesting. sebastian missed the SPREAD in spreadshirt in his post, but there are more people who dont like this. i believe an independent premium account, deleting all spreadshirt references for like 10$ more would make some people happy</p>
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		<title>By: Sebastian Trappe</title>
		<link>http://we-hate-you.com/2009/10/11/spreadshirt-premium-and-what-i-think-is-wrong-with-it/comment-page-1/#comment-473</link>
		<dc:creator>Sebastian Trappe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for your response, I&#039;ll post some suggestions on the weekend, cant&#039;t do it earlier because i&#039;m busy setting up the website for my shirts ; ) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for your response, I&#039;ll post some suggestions on the weekend, cant&#039;t do it earlier because i&#039;m busy setting up the website for my shirts ; )</p>
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		<title>By: ami</title>
		<link>http://we-hate-you.com/2009/10/11/spreadshirt-premium-and-what-i-think-is-wrong-with-it/comment-page-1/#comment-472</link>
		<dc:creator>ami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 13:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi sebastian, 
 
as promised I wanted to come back with a detailed feedback (which took a little since I was out of office and your post is quite detailed ;).  
So first of all: thanks a lot for this post. Sorry that you&#039;ve had trouble with our platform, and sharing the problems with us, so we can learn and improve. 
 
Now, specific feedback: 
- forum. We work to answer all threads, but yes, some do get lost in the volume. If you feel that we lost something important, just bump up a topic again to get answers. 
- shared baskets. This is a tough one. Few people do it (&lt;3%) and those that do usually like it (security and convenience). However, we should make this more clear, so folks that do stumble upon it, and don&#039;t get the Spreadshirt connection, feel good about it. We need to present it as a &quot;network&quot; that is empowering to the customer and you, the shop partner. We can do this. 
- forced registration. I expect you know that we&#039;ll always need an email address, but yes, we should have a &quot;guest&quot; (no password) checkout. It is on our list. No timeline yet for implementation. 
- private label. 
-- in checkout. Feedback from customers &amp; &quot;the market&quot; is that being associated with Spreadshirt is a good thing for most independent shops. It means there is a bigger company taking care and it is one place rather than many to register. Again, we need to position this differently as covered above. 
  -- in newsletters. We do not send newsletters to your customers without you initiating it and/or to promote anything other than your shop. Period. We have to get permission to do this from the customer. So our terms have to cover that in a general way for all shop partners (premium shoppartner included). The newsletters you initiate from our platform are about your shop only. 
-- in the shopping or order process. We work to only mention Spreadshirt where legally required, or to support the customer. For example, the customer has to know that Spreadshirt will be on their credit card bill .. they need to know who to contact for customer service, etc. We are happy to discuss specific areas if we have to mention spreadshirt at some places, and sometimes we change this based on feedback (as we did in the past &amp; as we can legally). 
- shop customization. this one is hard, it is a balance between flexibility and ease of use. And it depends on the skills and knowledge of the shop partner. But overall, your mention of Wordpress/Spreadshirt hybrid is a good analogy to what we want to do. WordPress has great ease of use, but adds in extensibility. We aren&#039;t there yet, but that is our goal. Specifics on what you think is the most painful is helpful, so we can improve the most important parts the soonest. 
 
Thanks again for the post and the discussion. We look forward to having you as a partner, and hopefully improving for you. 
 
 
best, 
 
ami.) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi sebastian, </p>
<p>as promised I wanted to come back with a detailed feedback (which took a little since I was out of office and your post is quite detailed ;).<br />
So first of all: thanks a lot for this post. Sorry that you&#039;ve had trouble with our platform, and sharing the problems with us, so we can learn and improve. </p>
<p>Now, specific feedback:<br />
- forum. We work to answer all threads, but yes, some do get lost in the volume. If you feel that we lost something important, just bump up a topic again to get answers.<br />
- shared baskets. This is a tough one. Few people do it (&lt;3%) and those that do usually like it (security and convenience). However, we should make this more clear, so folks that do stumble upon it, and don&#039;t get the Spreadshirt connection, feel good about it. We need to present it as a &quot;network&quot; that is empowering to the customer and you, the shop partner. We can do this.<br />
- forced registration. I expect you know that we&#039;ll always need an email address, but yes, we should have a &quot;guest&quot; (no password) checkout. It is on our list. No timeline yet for implementation.<br />
- private label.<br />
&#8211; in checkout. Feedback from customers &amp; &quot;the market&quot; is that being associated with Spreadshirt is a good thing for most independent shops. It means there is a bigger company taking care and it is one place rather than many to register. Again, we need to position this differently as covered above.<br />
  &#8212; in newsletters. We do not send newsletters to your customers without you initiating it and/or to promote anything other than your shop. Period. We have to get permission to do this from the customer. So our terms have to cover that in a general way for all shop partners (premium shoppartner included). The newsletters you initiate from our platform are about your shop only.<br />
&#8211; in the shopping or order process. We work to only mention Spreadshirt where legally required, or to support the customer. For example, the customer has to know that Spreadshirt will be on their credit card bill .. they need to know who to contact for customer service, etc. We are happy to discuss specific areas if we have to mention spreadshirt at some places, and sometimes we change this based on feedback (as we did in the past &amp; as we can legally).<br />
- shop customization. this one is hard, it is a balance between flexibility and ease of use. And it depends on the skills and knowledge of the shop partner. But overall, your mention of WordPress/Spreadshirt hybrid is a good analogy to what we want to do. WordPress has great ease of use, but adds in extensibility. We aren&#039;t there yet, but that is our goal. Specifics on what you think is the most painful is helpful, so we can improve the most important parts the soonest. </p>
<p>Thanks again for the post and the discussion. We look forward to having you as a partner, and hopefully improving for you. </p>
<p>best, </p>
<p>ami.)</p>
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		<title>By: jeggers</title>
		<link>http://we-hate-you.com/2009/10/11/spreadshirt-premium-and-what-i-think-is-wrong-with-it/comment-page-1/#comment-470</link>
		<dc:creator>jeggers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 18:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@tekzt Cool. We&#039;ll respond. Sometimes folks get bothered by responses, so I like to ck. You bring up good pts. We like discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@tekzt Cool. We&#8217;ll respond. Sometimes folks get bothered by responses, so I like to ck. You bring up good pts. We like discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: Sephiroth84</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sephiroth84</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13:37:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>me had an spreadshirt premium account but i didnt try to build a brand or so i just sold shirts with cool quotes so its not like i was realy tryin to make a buck there. i went premium because of the uploadlimit not because i didnt want ppl to not recognize its spreadshirt. im not a real designer it wasnt a problem for me but if ya lookin 2 built a REAL clothing brand your right!!! somebody who doesnt no spreadshirt is just lookin round the net fo shirts and then orders on 2 diffrent sites and they share a cart thats weird man!! will think all belong together some kind of big evil internet tshirt cartel lmao controlling the whole tshirtmarket worldwide lmao </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>me had an spreadshirt premium account but i didnt try to build a brand or so i just sold shirts with cool quotes so its not like i was realy tryin to make a buck there. i went premium because of the uploadlimit not because i didnt want ppl to not recognize its spreadshirt. im not a real designer it wasnt a problem for me but if ya lookin 2 built a REAL clothing brand your right!!! somebody who doesnt no spreadshirt is just lookin round the net fo shirts and then orders on 2 diffrent sites and they share a cart thats weird man!! will think all belong together some kind of big evil internet tshirt cartel lmao controlling the whole tshirtmarket worldwide lmao</p>
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		<title>By: tekzt</title>
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		<dc:creator>tekzt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@jeggers Thanks for taking the time to read it. A response would be awesome, will put it in the post then, so it&#039;s not just in the comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@jeggers Thanks for taking the time to read it. A response would be awesome, will put it in the post then, so it&#8217;s not just in the comments.</p>
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